Parts: Leather saddles, saddle bags, etc.


Notes about variations in leather saddles

Note that these leather saddles are all handmade and thus there are variations in leather thickness, in how the leather is cut and even things like the grain of leather and how it changes can be seen in some saddles (the lighter the colour the more you see it).

On Brooks saddles the logo is often not placed entirely straight either. These are things you need to accept on such saddles, otherwise buy a plastic saddle

I noted some problems I had with carriages on the saddle test page, and these are unacceptable to me, but the other 'issues' are part of what you get when buying a leather saddle. But if it's important to you, I have on some occasions made pictures of several saddles in case I had multiple in stock, so a buyer could choose which he preferred...

My reviews of each saddle type

For all saddles and for a few other products you can click on the name to go to the review pages with specifications and experiences of the product in question and much more information on leather saddles.

Stock indication

Within brackets there are notes whether the item is in stock or when it's expected or how many days it takes to get to me after an order (for items my distributor has in stock), which is usually 2 days.

Postage

Postage is EUR 14.30 for within EU, and $36 for destinations to outside EU. I keep postage price fixed at that, so if you want to combine purchases of saddles and/or lights or dynamos, postage stays the same.

Prices: in $ and €

Prices in EURO are for customers within the EU and include VAT (sales tax). Prices in US$ are for customers outside the EU and do not include VAT.


If you want to order, fill in the following, select the items (if more than one items for one of them, just add a note at the end of the page), and send the order (bottom of the page). To combine an order with that of lights/dynamos, also send an order from the bike lighting page and they will be combined:

You will get a confirmation email anyway so if there are any mistakes or you change your mind about something, no problem.

N.B. xs4all's mail-a-form needs referer headers, so you need to disable a proxy... (you will get an error message if using a proxy that doesn't provide these headers) In case of problems you can email me a list of what you want.

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Please use bank transfer in EURO countries, as paypal is expensive...

Brooks

Note: For any saddles or colours not listed, send an email. I can usually supply them.

Race/tour/trekking saddles and accessories

Brooks: Swallow

Brooks: Swift

Brooks: Team professional

Brooks: B17

The B17 is now available in lots of colours. But note that saddles in (dark) green have been removed from Brooks' pricelists that I have, and the distributor I have doesn't seem to have them, so if you're interested in a specific saddle in green, send me an email, perhaps I can order a batch. Note also that the original green (not the newer apple green coour) Brooks saddles I've seen are quite dark, it's so dark you would think it's black unless you look closer. That was not very impressive to me, and quite unlike the images Brooks have/had on their website. The newer lighter colour green stands out more...

If you would like a B17 or B17 special or B17 select with Imperial cutout & lacing, see Saddle modifications

Brooks: B17 narrow

Brooks: B17 Imperial

Brooks: B17 narrow Imperial

Note: As of mid/late 2009, most Imperials no longer came with 3 extra coloured laces for some time, but as of Spring 2011 they are equipped again with the extra laces. I read somewhere that someone from Brooks noticed almost no one used those extra laces, so I guess that's why they were no longer included for a while? Btw., any 75 cm long laces from a shoe shop wil do..

Brooks: Colt

Brooks: Flyer

I think the springs in the Flyer are too hard (you could just as well use the B17), but some people think they work:

Ladies' versions (such as Finesse, B17S) of all saddles (where available) are the same price as the mens versions.

City bike saddles

Brooks: B68

Ladies city bike saddle B68 S

Brooks: B67

As the B68 is no longer produced this will be the only city bike option (from Brooks at least, and except for the very expensive B18)...


Leather bar tape

After a question from a client about glued bar tapes in mid 2011 I checked some of the bar tapes I had recently got from a distributor and all were glued, see this example:


I then checked all my stock:

So, 7 out of 15 have glued pieces.

Are these glued bar tapes acceptable to use? On a roadbike handlebar the splice could be positioned on the bottom section where it will not be visible (but you can feel it). For bullhorn bars the handlebar tape is longer than necessary and the splice doesn't matter as the tape will be cut earlier anyway.

2011-11-24: Finally an answer from Brooks about percentages that are glued: ca. 95% is glued. This is different from their earlier answer that this only happens sometimes and means that there is not much point in selecting. I was apparently lucky in my current stock with a fair number of single piece leather bar tapes.

Leather mudflaps


Toe straps for toeclips

Brooks leather toe straps: I think they are far too expensive (most people looking for toe straps too) even though they have a stainless steel clasp and are very good quality:

Trouser clamps


Saddle bags


Baskets/bags, panniers

See this page (Brooks Hoxton, Camden, Brick lane, Soho, Islington, Hampstead etc.)

What we don't normally stock, but can be ordered

  1. Brooks Flyer: The Flyers are useless versions of the B17, because the springs are too hard and don't give any comfort improvement over a B17. [ possibly useful for heavier cyclists? (say 100kg and more) ]
  2. Brooks B66/B66S, B67/B67S: These are useless saddle types because the springs are too hard and don't give any comfort improvement over a B68. Get a B68 (men's saddle) or B68S (ladies' saddle) instead, which is just as comfortable and a lot lighter. [ possibly useful for heavier cyclists? (say 100kg and more) ]
    Note: Before 1999 the B66 had soft springs. The B67 was introduced in 2001 and always had hard springs. The B66/B66S cannot be mounted directly on a patent seatpost which is why this is a saddle we don't recommend for that reason as well.
  3. Brooks B33 and B130/B190: These are suitable for city- or slow touring bikes and listed as 'heavy duty saddles' by Brooks. We don't have experience with them... But still we would suggest a B68 with a cheap sprung seatpost is probably at least as comfortable and a lot lighter. We may change this if there's serious interest in these saddles (there's been none so far).
  4. Brooks aged saddles: We are not convinced of the use of aged versions of various saddles (B17, Flyer, B68) and will therefore not stock them. This also means the aged versions of saddle bags and grips will not be stocked!

More information about these issues can be found on the saddle experiences and recommendation page.


Saddle maintenance kit/Proofide/cover


Saddle modifications

As Brooks currently don't want to make other versions of the B17 Imperial/B17 narrow Imperial (so no B17 Imperial titanium, and no black carriage instead of chrome), we offer a modification service:

Imperial cutout + lacing applied to a B17-titanium, B17 standard, B17 special, B17 select, B17 narrow: $36,- / €30,-
This can be done as follows:
  1. The cutout precisely as the Imperials from Brooks
  2. Making the cutout slightly wider on the front (a few millimetres). The latter I would suggest is preferable, as in long term use (several thousand km) the slot on a B17 Imperial gets a bit narrower, and so much so that it just makes the saddle just a little bit less good than it could be.

Here's a B17 special honey, modified with just cutout (I only recommend this for lightweight riders, although you can always drill holes for the lacing if necessary afterwards of course):


Here's a B17 standard honey (much darker than the honeys I get from Brooks, I have no idea how that came to be; This saddle was brought to me to be modified):

And here is a larger version of the first image.

Here's a B17 titanium with Imperial modification:


Imperial modification for a Team professional: $36,- / €30,-


Lacing a Swift: $15,- / € 12,-

See lacing a Swift.

B17 swallowised + imperialising: $48,- / € 40,- (add this to the price of the saddle you want, which can be any B17: B17 standard, B17 special, B17 select. The modification can also be applied to a B17 you already have if you want to send that in)

See for experiences Modification: B17 special imperial swallow.

Swallow modification for a Team professional: $30,- / €25,-

Swallow-imperial modification for a Team professional: $48,- / €40,-


Lepper

Note: Unless Lepper can supply saddles within a reasonable time in the future, I will not stock them any more. This is a pity, as there needs to be more competition to Brooks, but the way it's going now is not workable. I finally got hold of some saddles in Aug.2011, but as of 3 Nov. 2013 21 march 2014 I still haven't got the saddles I ordered late 2012, nor spare tensioning bolts for a customer, so I'm going to leave it at this.


Ordering

Any other wishes or comments?:

Be sure you entered your email address so I can respond to an order or question...

After 'Send order' you will get an email with payment instructions for bank transfer or a paypal invoice as per your indicated preference. You can always revise an order of course after this, just send an email then.

Or just send an email with what you want and I'll send payment details or a paypal invoice: Email.

Postage is $36 for destinations to outside EU, and EUR 14.30 for within EU for any order (so multiple saddles too, or saddle + light + dynamo hub, etc.), with insurance/tracking. For small items (e.g. a single taillamp) cheaper options are available. Just send an email with what you are interested in and I will send you a price quote and bank payment details (IBAN+BIC/Swift) or a paypal invoice in case you want to order: Email.

You can also pick up stuff if you are in the Netherlands. Demonstration of bicycle lighting is possible on appointment in the evening. You can also try out various of the pumps and saddles that I reviewed. For more details see here: Ordering, postage, taxes etc.

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