Similarities between K.Raniere/Nxivm and charities and a group who wanted to do ecological local farming projects of which 1 member was a friend of mine

When looking at the story of a woman whose statement about nxivm/Raniere who felt she was used thinking she did something good, was published on frankreport.com, I felt this was similar to what happens in charities: People in such organisations say and possibly think that they are doing a good thing, but are they?

I will start with the following, about the insanity of feeling in control while someone controls you (which was a part of the women's group within nxivm): I talked about this a bit more with a relative recently who then mentioned where else this happens. I didn't agree with the first examples but another was correct, and that was charity. The story is essentially of someone who volunteers for a charity: Not getting paid and doing something that she thinks is worth wile and needs to be done. In many charities this sentiment is abused and people higher up will say if someone wants to quit, they they shouldn't quit, they are needed, and that they will do something of value. The real value is mostly with and for the people higher up, they reap the rewards. Charities often give very little of what they collect to the actual people or organisations that could use the money. The organisation of many charities takes so much money in wages, buildings, advertising etc., that their validity should be questioned. About 10 years ago this was an issue in the Dutch heart foundation, where the director had wages that I think was about 170,000 euro per year. And they expect volunteers to collect money for not just their actual goals, but also to pay for those wages!

The story is about a friend a few years ago. I talked with her about another way to live and produce food, that she and some of her friends wanted to implement, to grow crops on a smaller scale and in a more ecological way and at the same time to stimulate local economy. I had met some of these people with her. This meeting was such that it was hard to form a view of them (I will not explain further, it would make the story fairly long and it's not relevant here. I analyse it all in part 2 of my project on understanding 'everything' as an example of various issues in how people behave and think). I met her again about a year and a half later. She told me about the problems that she and the rest of this group had, from large businesses interfering via local inhabitants, city council not giving permits (almost certainly related also to large business interests), vandalism and much more. But she also told me how this group treated her. They used her for her knowledge, and even used her ideas that could immediately be implemented, for their businesses to make money, and once some guy, who was interested in her which was not reciprocated by her, found someone else who had some of her knowledge and skills, they dumped her... She gave ideas that they profited off, and she got nothing in return... Not just that, they had tested her (done things to see how she would react and got through difficult situations), and they did other things which I consider extremely anti-social. So this all happened despite the fact that these people are trying to make life better. Who does this remind you of?

I don't think any of them were psychopaths (note that I mean by this term only the essence of being anti-social to a degree of only caring about oneself; the definitions in psychology don't make sense which I have explained a little on some of my other critical pages, but I will explain it in detail in part 2 of my project), though I can't say for sure as I didn't have enough interaction with them, but note that being anti-social doesn't necessarily mean an outward persona of caring only about yourself. This depends on such a person's desires (what he strives to achieve), and his abilities to manipulate and hide himself.

Last modified: 2020-11-21